Gertrude Jekyll, deep pink Graham Thomas Unfading yellow. Both old favourites.

I don't know where you want it to grow, but Compassion is a lovely one, fragrant, medium sized climber, but best on an archway or narrow trellis rather than along a fence.

Leverkeusen is pale yellow, tough as old boots and disease resistant

Just bought graham thomas as a shrub for my new bed, GJ I did have in mind, compassion, yes I will consider that one, bamboo what is that clematis you have on your picture there, many thanks for the info. x

Hello andrewr, I have Lev growing up a pillar in my card, yes it is a tough old thing, isnt it. thank you

It's Niobe, Patricia - can I just say that, as I'm growing it in full sun, that wonderful dark colour you see there is lost within 48 hours - they lighten up to a reddish colour. I'm pretty sure that with less sun, they'd retain their colour better though.

Mine is a deep velvety red all the time, Bamboo - it's in an east-facing position. I love it!

Ah - mine's in a south facing area, so sun all day. Nice to know they keep their colour better in shadier areas.

It really is a beauty! :-)

I think thats for me bamboo, it will be part shade, and its such a lovely colour. can I trouble you to tell me when it flowers thank you all again.

Thornless rose, Zephirin Drouhin, which is a beautifully
scented Bourbon and has healthy leaves. It is still looking good even in this weather.

Warning, Patricia; Zephrin mentioned above is a rambler, not a climber, and there's a world of difference between them! C. Niobe is a late spring and summer flowering one - prune group 2, that is, no pruning really, except for a bit of a tidy up, although it can be cut down at the end of the season, or by the following February, if you want it to become a bushier plant or its got too tatty - if you do that, though, you will lose the earlier, larger flowers, but will keep the later, smaller ones.

I grow Zephirine Drouhin and it is a climber which can be kept pruned as a bush rose - or a bush rose which can be encouraged to climb. It is definitely not a rambler. Check it out.

Well I'll be jiggered - I've just checked and you're right, its down as a climber, Heather! I must admit the only time I've come across it, it looked very like a rambler - that 4 feet wide from front to back thicket of stems that were impossible to hack through. Quite put me off, never planted it anywhere in all the years I've worked because of that. And now I find its a climber! Lord knows how old that Zephirine drouhin I had to deal with was then. Apologies Patricia, for giving out the wrong info.

What a pity you never had the pleasure of growing this beautiful rose Bamboo. I have never seen one in the condition you describe. There is a picture of one on GOY by TELME8. I just typed the rose in the search. I have not learnt to find my way around here yet. I have all the roses mentioned above. Leverkusen is almost frilly and very pretty, but prickly. Compassion is fine, but I really love Zephirine Drouhin and also Kathleen Harrop.

Leverkusen I know well, and Compassion, but I have to say, the only roses I have ever personally grown in my own garden have been 3 - whisky mac, fragrant delight (both in memory of something) and korresia for its colour. I am not a lover of roses, in fact, they're top of my list of most disliked plants ;o(

Lovely reading your comments, I am a rosey person, the scent takes me to a different place, I will check out zepherine I have heard of it, I study roses all the time, but its nice to have a recommendation. I am making a cottage garden at the side of my house, its not very big, but I want to put campanula delphiniums, perennial geraniums, dahlias, roses of course. lovely speaking to you.

Goodness you will be sick of hearing from me. If the climber is going anywhere near Graham Thomas, then Bamboo's suggestion of Compassion would be a better colour and it is a very reliable rose. If it is near Graham Thomas, perhaps the dark red Dublin Bay might be worth looking at, but it is not scented. I bought this one because it looks good with its black red buds, even before the flowers bloom. It is not too big either.

Thank you heather, I wil look up dublin bay, one I have not heard of. Not sick of hearing from anyone, love it. x

I dont know if any of you people know it ,but I still drule over a rose I once had called edner harkness, I think thats how it was spelt.

Ena Harkness, Cliffo - there's a climbing version or a bush one.

I have Zepherine Drouhin climbing through an old apple tree - she's a beautiful pink, and a lovely perfume. She flowered for a long time this year!

Dublin Bay is climbing up one of my obelisks - a great deep red, but I don't think it has a scent. Its flowers are a good shape, though. It also has a long flowering period.

So - I know I'm biased, but I can recommend both of these! :-))

thanks guys, I want them all, cliffo lovely photo of the sunset, I love sunsets, got millions of pictures of them. happy gardening, looking out there perhaps not. its ghastly weather at the moment, well I am off christmas shopping ugh!! sooner be in the garden