HERE IS THE SECOND UNKNOWN

could be one of many things. a wild cabbage/brassica or a dock/rumex are two that spring to mind.

Could it be an Eryngium planum?

yes it could too.

I think Spritz could be right.

i think Heron is right

That's all right then

???

Just a play on words Spritz, I'm always fooling around with them. I do miss the 'Smilies' they explains such comments so well. especially when someone has a weird sense of humour like me. (Smile)

I was just puzzled why Cliffo thought YOU were right about ME being right, Heron! It was all getting a bit confusing! LOL. So that's all right, then... ;-)