By Tercol
Norfolk, United Kingdom
Hi just returned from hols to hear my neighbour has been granted outline permission for 30 houses on brownbelt 10 of which will be backing onto my boundary the full length of my garden, the first being within approx 25 metres og my kitchen window. What can I plant evergreen wise to provide privacy screening especially as they will be houses with windows overlooking , I bought 2 years ago because I have lovely open views, I just dont want to see wood panels I want something to keep the birds, owls and bats here woyld sppreciate advice what is within the law
Thank you
- 18 Feb, 2016
Answers
Thank you, I have holly and pyracantha in other areas of my garden but they do not seem to grow very fast (been in 2 years) I was hoping for something which would look established much quicker. At the moment the 'plot' his garden has laurel hedging which I love and as he is approximately 15inches higher than my garden already 6ft his side is over 7ft my side so am looking for the height, ps the birds enjoy the holly
19 Feb, 2016
Didn't you know about his application for outline planning permission in advance? Contact your local council and object strongly.
19 Feb, 2016
I agree Mg.....and the neighbours, enviromental heath, parish council MP. anyone you can think of.....
Willow grows like a weed here.....
19 Feb, 2016
The Council's planning department would - or should - have sent notices of the proposed development to all affected neighbours when the plan was first submitted to them, so that objections could be raised by those concerned. Are you saying that you never received such a notice...?
19 Feb, 2016
Its unlikely an objection would be sustained though as you usually have to prove a lot more inconvenience than 25 yards away. Its a horrible thing to happen, but sadly pretty common, and often a lot closer than that.
The problem with planting fast growing things is that they don't stop growing and there are also regulations in many places limiting the height of hedges between properties.
What you are allowed to do is put up a good strong six or eight foot fence and a fix good strong trellis on top. You can put eg netting over it and grow attractive climbers to cover it. Then if you have room you could plant a tree so that when it grows the canopy will give you privacy in summer at least, as long as it isn't planted so near the fence that it will overhang the new neighbours plot.
Its best to be patient waiting for shrubs to grow - frustrating but worth it. Fast growers soon often become a menace. Yours are busy making roots now but soon they will be off and you'll be glad you got them.
Another thought - if the laurel hedge will be in the new gardens you don't know what the new owners will do - grub it out or neglect it.
19 Feb, 2016
Tercol should still object and also complain if he wasn't given official notice of he application Stera. He should ale talk to his parish council who should also have received notification of this application. There 'are' ways of stopping this sort of thing you just need to be prepared to work at!
19 Feb, 2016
Moon grower, saw advert in press, wasnt informed, complained to council who extended the date, and sent me a copy of the letter i should have received since then he has appealed twice and got refused then the applicants name changed to xxxx builders and hey ho it passed (while we were away) did write in together with 7 out of the nine who abut the edge in some way or form, pointing out it was outside the building line as did the council obviously withno effect, to make matters worse plans state they will dig a ditch to drain into an existing ditch for surface water and this ditch is on my property, leading to a soakaway in the corner of my garden my fear is how big this soakaway will get if 30 houses surface water drains to it, applicants advisers state they will provide 2 water buts to each property!
19 Feb, 2016
This situation has turned into a runaway railroad train and the only possible way to derail it is with good legal council unfortunately paid for by your hard earned money. But sadly it sounds like the fix is in.
20 Feb, 2016
See your MP surely it shouldn't affect your land!!
20 Feb, 2016
Agree talk to your MP
20 Feb, 2016
I agree with the above, it's a complete separate piece of land/ property to yours, our neighbours raised the drive at the side of our garage and the drain/soak away was overflowing (albeit gradually) into our garden, which caused the land slip behind my pond because the ground was getting soddened and then drying out and our garage was getting between a few centimetres to about 2-3 inches of water in it with the heavy rain. We had to consult the local council/authorities and they had to sort his as they actually installed it on a thin strip of our property beside our garage which we don't use/ access as it is at best only a paving slab wide.
20 Feb, 2016
You could plant laurel - it is quick and very thick. But you will need to cut your side and top - so be sure you can access it.
Another idea would be a 'pleached stilted' hedge. Basically it is a row of trees , usually hornbeam or beech, grown so that they meet 4ft or so above the ground and make a continuous screen above that. You could use Portuguese laurel as an evergreen alternative to these. Or put up a really sturdy metal support up to the height you want to screen, then grow evergreen climbers up it. Trachelospermum jasminoides is great for this and rather quick if you can get biggish plants and plant them on a slant, they then make loads of upward growing shoots. If you do this you want to get it in place before they start building - then they cannot complain about your height!
20 Feb, 2016
No point in planting anything Hoya he needs to make a vigorous complaint and keep complaining to his MP, parish council etc.
20 Feb, 2016
"applicants advisors" as you have stated. To effectively complain about about any potential problem to you ( right of enjoyment) and your property ( harm to it in any fashion) you will have to present to the council your own professional advisors as well as legal council, as I have mentioned before. Being that the development next to your property is consistent with residential zoning in your area as opposed to a commercial property proposed within or next to a residential one, you will have to resign yourself to what comes. Shame, how many times have houses been bought because of their bucolic surroundings only to have that scene blotted out by the planting of new residences around them a few years later. As for my home, I bought ..won.. it in a bidding war, why? The land in the back of my property is a state watershed area with a artesian spring on it and it can never be developed. This is something we all hope to look for but rarely find unfortunately.
20 Feb, 2016
Remember that Tercol is in the UK rather than the US Lose strife so different rules and regulations apply. The fact that the developer would need to run soak away water through his property is significant. Tercol contact the Environment Agency and ask for their help and advice. This is only outline permission so the EA and other interested bodies have to be consulted.
20 Feb, 2016
I am well aware of that but did not mention it. The fundamentals are the same.
20 Feb, 2016
Sorry no they aren't Loostrife2 lots of different legislation
20 Feb, 2016
Different legislation, yes. Different country, yes. But the xxxbuilders seem have the universal in-game going. That's what I meant by saying the fundamentals are the same. A little give and a little take....they'll get what they want. A 30 home development means there's alot of $$$$$ to be spread around before and after.
21 Feb, 2016
We're such a small island,
Building companies buy up plots of land, suitable. ....and unsuitable for building
The do it in the hope of getting permission in the future.....
Recent floods proved a point, building in the wrong place, on huge tracts of pasture land, even on flood plains cause problems for everyone.....untold misery for so many families....and businesses, some never recover
There was a sign in the media, a photo saying 'land for 30 houses for sale'
The pole holding the sign was under feet of flood water, only the sign was visible
I rest my case ?
21 Feb, 2016
A team of 'developers' has been attempting to buy Common Good land in the town near where Bulba and I live for several years now Loosestrife2. I case you don't know Common Good land is owned by the people who live in the town and any such sale has to be agreed by them as well as the local council's planning department. A vigorous campaign has, so far, prevented the sale and we will all continue to fight this. Tercol talk to all the other people who are going to be affected by this, start a petition, get the info out in the local media, in other words campaign against it. Sometimes you have to seriously stand up for your rights!
21 Feb, 2016
What about Holly bushes? And pyracanthas? Every green and have berries on them for added Interest and colour? And evergreen climbing plants?? Rambling roses too through it all?
18 Feb, 2016