By Somhairle
Renfrewshire, Scotland
Rose Tree? I have had this chap in my garden since we arrived 10 years ago. It appears to be a type of rose tree but the stem/trunk puzzles me and would like more info about it.
Can anyone tell me what it is? I intend to give it some serious attention this winter cutting out all the old wood and pruning the lanky new shoots. But if anyone has any other suggestions as to how to treat the tree, let me know.
Below are before and after images!
- 20 Sep, 2011
Answers
Bamboo, I can see the photos. If anyone else has a problem, please let me know.
20 Sep, 2011
They're present now - at first, there was only a short description of 2 photographs. I think the site's playing up a bit today, it crashed when I was on a bit earlier.
Can I ask when this flowers, and does it just have one major flush and then that's it, or is it repeat flowering?
20 Sep, 2011
It has one major flush around July/August. It is completely covered with small, red rose like flowers. What is shown in the photo, is what is left once the main bloom is over.
20 Sep, 2011
I'm wondering if its Excelsa - if there's no fragrance to the flowers, it might be that because its usually grafted onto a standard in this way. Obviously you can't prune past the graft point at the top of the standard stem, but practice with this one is to, in theory, remove all flowered shoots back to the graft and reduce by a third the other brances. In practice, that probably means you lose too much wood, so trim back the flowered shoots by half and then reshape the rest.
Sorry, just altered this - meant to say you CAN'T prune past the graft point, missed the apostrophe and t off...
20 Sep, 2011
Thanks, Bamboo. Looking at some images on Google, it certainly could be Exclesa.
What threw me with this was the girth of the stem. It is thick and very gnarled. In truth, I have never even noticed the graft at the top.
20 Sep, 2011
Good job you've never hacked back past it then, lol!
20 Sep, 2011
First cut out the dead shoots, right back to any healthy part. Then cut out 2 or 3 of the oldest shoots, then tidy up the rest to give a nice rounded shape. Give it a good feed and mulch in spring.
20 Sep, 2011
Thanks, Volunteer. Pruning in Autumn/Winter or Spring?
20 Sep, 2011
Now - should be done in September if it is Excelsa, its a rambler.
20 Sep, 2011
Thanks, Bamboo. I was wondering what to do tomorrow (or whenever it is not raining!).
20 Sep, 2011
It looks very like my Rose Excelsa.
20 Sep, 2011
Good enough. It goes in my log as a Rose Excelsa!
21 Sep, 2011
Well, tried to follow your advice chaps and this is what we have left. Took away loads of old wood and tried to get back to the best of the newer wood. We'll see how it performs next year. This is the first year that I have pruned this rose and I have lived here for 10 years.
I also removed the stake, straightened and drove it back into the ground. That was hard as there was about 18" under ground. The shoulders are aching!
I have added the 'after pruning' image above.
28 Sep, 2011
Good Lord, you've certainly been rigorous with it - you may not get any flowers next year....
28 Sep, 2011
I think you might have intended to attach photographs - but they are not present. Can you try again?
20 Sep, 2011