all the proprietory ones do the job pretty much as well as each other.

thanks seaburn cheers pete

Hello, we got a brillant one last year from Amazon called Verdone. The box is in the garage, I'll check tomorrow and come back and let you know exactly which one.

Whoops, just re-read your question and see you mention Verdone.

hi dawn i bought verdone extra tonight it seems a great offer £7.99 from homebase thank you for your reply

That's the one I have Pete. I'm sure it will do a good job for you :-)

thanks dawn i am useing it tomorrow ,cheers pete