we still dont know wot this is ,ideas any one

There it is
! Cristina...yours is exactly like mine, I am afraid it is still a mystery:(( Did you say it is a thug in your garden too?

Its one of the Rudbeckia nitida's very quick grower and yes it can be a thug in some gardens

are you sure Drc. its bin the big mistry this yr as to wot its called . every 1 has been trying to find its name . it can be thugish michallea . but lots of colour. seems we have a name woooo woooooooooooooo

I've been busy uprooting mine Cristina, I know though it will still be the same next year, a lovely show even so....:o))

have cut some of mine down as fin flowering. omg a nother name now lol homebird . am going to get lemon queen i think its lovely

lol its this site just tooooooooooo much to have lol have seen it at arleyhall , a country house not far from here, so hopeing they have some 4 sale

lol and you hun xx

The reason I think its one of the many Rudbeckia nitida's is because I have one its very tall and they have less petals than Heliopsis? but its only my opinion as I cannot make out the leaves?

ooooooooooooooo thort we had a def name then lol x