Peak bloom .

You've inspired me Stan! I had one once and it was incredible. I overwintered it in the conservatory. I'm thinking that if I grew it in the greenhouse and brought it out for the summer on my South facing patio, I might be able to keep it fora few years by moving it in to the greenhouse for the winter. Worth a try as they are so spectacular and the scent......!!!!

Charles Grimaldi Karen is very vigorous..maybe not as cold tolerant as some others,but very fragrant like no other cultivar. I wonder if the original White is as scented?

I don't know which one I had before...it had white flowers turning to pale yellow/cream, and it was very very scented. I'll look into it further, thanks. I'll avoid Charles..don't want a very vigorous one!

Oh my....just look at the blooms on that...its beautiful