Added names in brackets??

A good question, I expect lots of folk would like to know including me. I suspect it's something to do with the name of the variety it was bred from or the breeder but I'm not at all sure.

In the case of roses I think it is to identify the breeder and maybe to protect their royalties. will have to check in some of my rose books

could it be the latin name and the common name.

can't lay my hands on my books thanks to moving house.
Gandys Creme de la Creme rose is (Gancre) = Gandy/cream
Ice Cream rose is (Korzuri) = Korressi/zuri. Don't know what the zuri is but could be lineage or the individual creator at the nursery
As for Gertrude Jekyll (Ausbord) = Austin/bord as breeders are David Austin roses

Interesting! Keep'em coming, I think you're on the track of the answer, Pipsqueak! Thanks.

It could be the same for other plant genera, too....to do with the breeder, I mean.

I think it is the breeder Spritz - I asked the owner of our local nursery and that's what she said!

Last one as my brain doesn't retain that much
Tickled Pink rose (Fryhunky) = Fry/hunky bred by Fryers roses

The name in brackets is the name given to the plant when it is registered and described by the owner of the Breeders Rights. The name which appears first is the one given to it when it comes to the point of sale.

Owdboggy is correct.

Confirm Owdboggy's response - this commonly occurs with roses, not so much with other plants. Brackets after the name of other plants often refers to what the plant was previously called, so Photinia davidiana usually has Stransvaesia davidiana in brackets after, because it's been reclassified. You sometimes see (syn...) in brackets after a plant name - that just means its the same plant as the name that follows, so Hebe Youngii might appear with (syn. Carl Teschner) after, because that's what it was previously known as, so not reclassified, simply renamed.

One of my geraniums is called G. 'Rozanne' (Gerwat)...so presumably 'Gerwat' was the name given by the breeder...thanks, Owdboggy! I like learning new facts! That's my day's ration, now. LOL.

Yes, Bamboo - I knew that bit about 'syn' - it often appears in my RHS 'A-Z', but it was the newer bracketed 'names' I couldn't work out...as they don't! But thanks for the info. anyway! :-)

Similar thing with Raymond Evison Clematis too. The code name is usually Evipo followed by a number. Evi is obvious but the po part of the name is because they are developed in partnership with Poulson Roses. The number denotes the year of release.

So Clematis 'Harlow Carr' is Evipo004

The Poulson only developed varieties such as C. 'Alabast' for instance has Poulala.

This clematis doesn't quite follow that tack.....at least not the number at the end as it came out in 2008.

cl. 'Rebecca™ Evipo016'(N)

What a lovely variety it is though!

http://www.guernsey-clematis.co.uk/cultivar.asp?letter=R

Gracious! How complicated! Why do they need to publicise this, when Joe Public doesn't understand it or even want to know? Is it for their own protection in case anyone tries to breed from the plant in question?

....back from gazing at 'Rebecca'!

Oh wow - you're right! She is lovely! Thanks for the link. :-))

Owdboggy is right in that it is the name registered by the breeder though so is the point of sale name which is why you can pay to have a plant or popularly a rose named.
The registered name in brackets is the one which protects the intellectual property rights of the breeder. Check out ciopora.org
When a plant breeder states that they are donating some of the proceeds of the sale to charity it can be traced and accounted for by the bracketed name. It is because they want some remuneration for all their hard work in producing strains and varieties

That's an interesting addition, Pipsqueak! Thank you for all your time and trouble in researching the info. It's appreciated. :-))

Not so unlike pedigree dogs or even us really. [Blogs] the breeder and Joe, the name given. What amazes me is how the 'experts' can name a rose without referring to the label. So many look so much alike.

what happend to the latin have we grown out of it,plants were all ways given latin names so that you could trase their family tree so to speak,

They are still there, Cliffo! If you look at my photos, I normally title them with the latin name - you're spot on... You can tell what they are and what they're related to!

Except of course that there are far more other languages used in plant naming than Latin. Greek is in fact far more common. Classical Greek that is. There is a distinct difference between Botanical Latin and Canonical Latin.
The reason for publishing the names in the form that is done in Plant Finders is as said purely and simply to protect the Breeder's rights.
Now me I would just call all Roses "Rubbish" and have done with it. (Wicked grin icon!).

True - but Linnaeus's system is very useful, isn't it!

I could recognise plants by their latin names in Italy on my recent holiday, when I couldn't from their Italian names!

Do I get the impression that you are not too keen on the genus 'Rosa', Ob?? lol.

Owdboggy's not alone with that opinion on roses ...

Ah-ha! Well - if we all liked the same plants, wouldn't our gardens be boring!

Ob, you can't just write them all off surely? You jest I'm sure. There is a rose for everyone as I am sure you will know. I love species types and include the modern repeat flowering types that look like wild roses.

There is a roundabout near me that has just been planted this year with the most gorgeous apricot coloured single rose. It's never been out of flower and is still in full flower even now. Far better than the awful blousy double pink one they have planted on the roundabout next to me. After rain, the flowers all go brown and don't fall off either. Typical!

Hardwood cuttings coming a little later this year from the other one.....evil laugh!

I'm not joking, actually, Fractal - I have had a grand total of 3 roses over the years, all of them fragrant, but I'm not a lover - nasty, thorny, black spotty, aphid infested, fussy pruning things, all for a few flowers which, though they are beautiful, are really only worth it if they're highly fragrant. And the bit you need to spray or prune is always too high up....I prefer other plants by far, the ones I call good workhorses - all year round value for attractiveness and ease of care. But hey, that's just me... I'm much more into leaves than flowers, by and large.

Yeah, I can certainly sympathise with the points you have made and you are also right in that they are just not for everyone. Vive la difference :-)

By the way, I tend to prefer foliage for the most part too. My back yard is mostly greens and the only flowers allowed (apart from a rogue Geranium nodosum) are Woodruff, the white flowers of the Pachysandra and Cornus canadensis and the Light blue of the Brunnera.

What, no Verbena bonariensis? I love it, takes up no room at all,appears in between shrubs and is in flower for six months...

Geraniums for ever!! I wouldn't be without them! Love them all except the 'anonymous pink' ones...

Verbena bon. is indispensible - think of all the insects it attracts - so many butterflies love it.

I do have a few roses, some inherited, some I chose. I don't mind the work - except the one on the far fence which is the world's most prickly one - 'Mermaid'. It alway 'gets' me. OUCH!!

I'm probably biased anyway - spent too many nights of my life hunched over a bright light with a pair of tweezers, a needle and a jeweller's eyepiece trying to remove thorns from various fingers, etc. Roses in my clients' gardens were the bane of my life...

Whoops, sorry, did I open a can of worms or not?
Everything Bamboo said I agree with as far as Roses are concerned. Even the David austin 'disease resistan' ones are leafless twigs by the end of august here because of the various nasty things which attack them.
Still back to the original question, yes it is a complicated system, but it is because the plants are registered long before they are put on the market and it is only then that they are given a 'proper' name.

Thanks again - it was puzzling me - and you know I like to find things out!

GOY is so good at that! :-))

who was it that said a rose by anyother name would smell as sweet, the rose is the clasic of he flower world (I said that) and I adoor them thorns' aphids ' spots' and all. not as much as a good crop of spuds though.

Ah, prosaic to the last Cliffo - just like me!

I had romance knocked out of me by two queens that each turned out to be not queen like, I THINK?

That's the trouble with thrones and pedestals - we always fall off, Cliffo. Trick is to remove the pedestal or throne in the first place, never sit anyone on one, or you'll always be disappointed!

Very philosophical, Bamboo...and quite probably right...

Not philosophical but had to say that I love roses thorns and all and geraniums. The bonus being slugs don't

Or snails! Hooray!

Yeh!!! and alchemilla mollis

my love is like a red red rose 'wrote Robert Burns' what was the qestion agine?