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dapper

By Dapper

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can you eat oinons that have onion fly




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No the larva of the fly eat the bulbs causing them to rot.

6 Jul, 2013

 

Why would anyone want to eat food covered in bacteria?

The complete idea of home grown fresh food is so you can eat chemicle free and the best food ,

If your going to abuse your inner body by eating any food thats being shared with all sorts of bacteria then be it on your own head.

You should treat your body like the most sacred thing you'll ever own,
Feed it the best, excerise it offten and remember a bin is for waste & rubbish,
your body only becomes a bin when you treat it like one.

" Do you think Moon growe got to look like that by not eating healthy?
Look at her picture!
Fresh looks, crisp facial lines, lovely hair, (oh what an air line brush can do)

Do not eat food thats covered in bacteria.

6 Jul, 2013

 

Photo wasn't airbrushed Dungy - at least so far as I know it wasn't :-)

6 Jul, 2013

 

How do you know if food has got bacteria on it?

Putting it another way, why do we need such a lecture from such a simple question.

6 Jul, 2013

 

We don't. Also larvae and bacteria are different.

6 Jul, 2013

 

and you cant get food totally bacteria free unless it has been irradiated and nor should you. stera is quite correct. with out bacteria we wouldn't even be on the planet.

as Mg said the larva eat the onion. If you do eat them then extra protein :o)) [true but meant as a joke.

Another lighter note. My uncle who died aged 99 claimed he treated his body like a temple ... a ruin but a temple non the less!

6 Jul, 2013

 

My Dad managed to give up smoking by saying his body was a temple - but even at 91 he never said it was a ruin!

6 Jul, 2013

 

Scrumpygrat,
I'll tell you why the question was replied in such force,
to many people pussy foot around questions that can cause ill health or even death,
Ie i wouldnt give any advice on the correct or incorrect mushrooms to eat, "why" because the chemist wouldnt without seeing them first "why" because the wrong ones will kill you,

Anyone who thinks they need to eat bacteria to have a healthy life is not talking safe talk.

Ref people saying they're grand folks lived to be what ever age and thought of their bodies as temples (ruin or not) may think a bit different if they become ill through eating food thats not fit to be eaten, ie green potatoes is a good one,
Not washing your hands after gardening or letting children pick fox glove and not washing their hands, these are all danger signs and the advice given ref such is very good advice and it was passed on to me years ago and im passing it on to those who want to hear it.

6 Jul, 2013

 

The reason resistant bacteria are developing and that people have so many allergies, infections, is that people are obsessed with cleanliness.Your body has to learn how to combat these things and the only way is by touch and exposure to pathogens.
I have never in 30 years washed my hands whilst gardening and have had no end of cuts infected with soil.
When i get home i'll wash thoroughly. That's it.
And all this rubbish you keep going on about regarding bacteria. What about probiotics. What about yoghurt?
There is no need to lecture on eating green potatoes or foxgloves on an onion thread either. Stating the obvious to try and justify your waffle is a little silly.

I may as well say don't use a fork to dig the garden in case you tread on it and it goes through your foot leading to gangrene and amputation.

7 Jul, 2013

 

Hi Dapper I bet you are wishing you never asked your question! I repeat onions infected with onion fly are not edible but it has nothing to do with bacteria which are on just about everything that we come into contact with, including our own skin.

7 Jul, 2013

 

yes exactly scrumpygraham and MG.
The majority of bacteria are harmless to us and we have at least 50 species of bacteria living in or on us all the time. we are even born with them.
clearly common sense prevails. and no one was suggesting you eat a petri dish of the stuff Dungy.
But auto immune diseases are on the increase. There was an excellent, large scale, peer reviewed research done in scandanavia in the '80's.
This clearly showed those children that lived in 'very clean bleached homes' had more asthma, excema and stomach upsets than expected.
The treatment was soil bacteria in small quanties, equivalent to eating a biscuit [no hand washing]after playing in the garden for an hour. The results were overwhelming. Being too clean is eaqually bad for your health.

the comments about temples ruined or not was, as I said, a joke to 'lighten the sting' of the earlier response. as for children picking foxgloves, I have all my life, never washed after. now aconites that's different.

and you will be pleased to hear Dungy when people ask about mushrooms I have never seen anyone say anything other than cant be sure so best not eat them.

7 Jul, 2013

 

We all know we have to have some resistance to bacteria,
But we shouldnt be walking head first into eating it due to not washing or cooking what we eat,
Ive seen this cool idea to drink from a bottle in pubs etc rather than use a glass,

Can you tell me 100% that not cats:rats:mice etc have not crawled over or urinated over these bottles while they have been out of view of the landlords etc ?

You own body is crawing with all sorts of mites and bugs "Ask any chemist or doctor" and they'll tell you the same,

you are missing the point and going off line,
the point you made to me was i gave a lecture ref this subject,
I dont do half replies, it's all or nothing from me and i feel anyone asking a question should have a full complete honest reply,
Its up to them if they want to take the advice given and in what way its given,
As i said its no good pussy footing about any form of health issue's in garden,
Moone grow has been giving advice for a long time on this forum and 9/ out of ten its good advice,
And my hat is off to her, (airbrush and all) but she use to give very little info in her replies, she's changed now and i feel gives a lot more of herself when replying
Why? Because a knew lease of life has come onto this forum and she's now giving more of a full reply because of this,
Now back to subject matter "seaburngirl" I use the mushroom bit as a way to point out just how dodgy it could be to advise without seeing, i didnt say anyone ever did say its fine to use this type or that type.

When people start asking if its ok to eat any form of bacteria or infested fruit/veg etc they should be made fully aware of the risk, and for the person giving the reply they should "i feel" say why they're giving their reply,
Ive done this and again i say do not take the risk of eating anything thats not safe for eating,

If you "sunburngirl" went into a shop and saw food crawling with onion fly larva would you expect to buy it, would you feed it to your loved ones?

If your reply is no you wouldnt!
we'e did you get the info "not" to eat it from?
Regards Dungy

7 Jul, 2013

 

Is this person for real..........

7 Jul, 2013

 

I'm glad you realise that bacteria are all around us but it was you Dungy that brought it up. btw it is Seaburn not Sunburn.

The reason people started drinking from bottles as opposed to glasses was to prevent their drink being spiked. There are even secure bottle stoppers.
Too many youngsters were getting spiked and the consequences are appalling. My eldest girl nearly died.
But it is irrelevant to the question.
Would I buy onions crawling with larvae all over the surface. No but I have bought them and then found them inside. Eaten no, but I have eaten fly maggots and didn't like then. A practical joker for a brother so I learnt from experience. Cabbage white caterpillars are equally unappetising and more bitter: if you are curious.

I've been on the site a long time and MG gives long and short answers depending I suspect on the time she has to dip into the site. She has sent me pm's with additional info rather than putting it on the open site. same with me. If I have a lot of time and I am interested in a topic then I tend to give fuller answers. But I don't think I have ever been rude to any one.

Now off to have some brie on toast.

7 Jul, 2013

 

Are you seriously suggesting that you are a new lease of life on the forum? Please tell me I misunderstood you. Your answers, although certainly long do not always stick to the point and sometimes appear to take on a hectoring tone. There are may very knowledgeable people here, including professional gardeners and botanists, and I for one take there advice seriously and value it highly.
If you did say Sunburn on purpose you can't say you are never rude. And whoever was recommending not washing or cooking food? We were answering a question about onion fly. Poor Dapper only joined to ask this question - a fine impression we will have made - please don't be put off us Dapper, this kind of thing is very unusual.

7 Jul, 2013

 

Fellow GoYers this is now so far off topic I am ashamed of us! As Stera says Dapper asked as simple question to which I gave a simple, and honest, answer. Can we now let the subject drop so that Dapper ceases to receive e-mails telling him/her that there is a new comment. As said before sorry Dapper bacteria have nothing to do with the question you asked.

7 Jul, 2013

 

:)

7 Jul, 2013

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