Norfolk, United Kingdom
Does anyone actually grow, or let survive, the Thorn Apple (Datura stramonium)? We have these pop up in the garden and though pretty are deadly poisonous, but then so are lots of our garden plants. It has lovely lilac flowers.
- 2 Aug, 2013
Answers
Take a look at www.thepoisongarden.co.uk - I believe the writer of that site is a GOYer. Talks a lot of sense about 'deadly poisonous' plants - some of them have interesting uses and are generally much maligned as they don't taste good enough to eat enough to kill you.
If the potato were discovered today it would not pass American food and drugs legislation. What would Ronald Macdonald do then?
2 Aug, 2013
It does make you wonder just how anyone found out a lot of these plants were poisonous they taste so horrible! However, as I've mentioned before, try and get hold of a copy of Culpeper's Complete Herbal. Brilliant fun to read as well as being really quite an eye-opener (like deadly nightshade).
2 Aug, 2013
Thanks Urbanite.
2 Aug, 2013
I usually like to to grow some Datura including the thorn apple as a garden filler as they grow so quickly from seed and fill some spaces in the soil during the summer if that makes sense? Although Datura stramonium is not really renown for it's pretty flowers... More green leaves than flowers, in my opinion it adds contrast to other colourful plants. I also like to grow one or two other Datura, or Angels Trumpet here and there for the same reason. Some of the flowers on some of them are really nice, and some have a lovely smell too.
2 Aug, 2013
I think we can get too hung up about poisonous plants. After all, daffodil bulbs are poisonous, but does that stop us growing them?
2 Aug, 2013
Thanks to everyone for their comments and help. I don't usually worry too much but we did have a peacock which died from something the vet didn't know about (!) and I had seen it eating White Bryony which are poisonous to humans, usually not birds - and what's a peacock if not a bird? Anyway we pull them out now, just in case.
The Thorn Apple had a really bad press here in Norfolk a couple of years ago. Someone asked the local paper what the plant was and panic set in and went on for days in the press about this alien plant that was poisonous! People were writing in saying they had found one and what should they do about it!! We don't have a lot of news in Norfolk as you will gather from the above!
Just bought two different coloured Monks Hood, lovely plants, again deadly poisonous, laburnum, foxglove, euphorbia and loads more, so why am I worrying.
Somewhere I read that it was deadly to livestock, including chickens, but they are probably too intelligent to eat it.
3 Aug, 2013
Thanks Urbanite for the poison garden website, absolutely fascinating, love all the folklore aspects of plants so this was a real treat for me.
Everyone should read it who has an interest in gardening and plants.
Who are we to ridicule all the old beliefs on plants and their meanings and uses, after all how many of us have stones with holes in and consider them lucky?
3 Aug, 2013
Do read Culpepper then Honeysuckle - a wonderful read as Worthy says. Gerard's herbal is very entertaining too - one plant he mentions as being very good for bruising when a woman has accidentaly brushed against her husbands fist...
3 Aug, 2013
i have had one and let it grow but it never came back, its a personal taste as to what you like, i let some pretty weeds grow because i like them.
2 Aug, 2013