By Amsterdam
Shropshire,
United Kingdom 
Plant I.d please. Is this a dahlia or coneflower? Am trying to find it on Dahlia catalogue website but can't find anything similar. When looking at the flower more closely it appears the middle bit of flower( can't remember what it's called) is raised so now unsure what it is? Any suggestions greatfully received.
29 Sep, 2022
Answers
The foliage looks like Dahlia but I'm not convinced about the flowers. I am inclined to go more with helianthemum/ rudbeckia types rather than echinacea.
it is lovely.
can you take any photos of buds or spent flowers to help with id. Dahlia buds and spent bits are very characteristic.
30 Sep, 2022
Unless the flowers are from something which has grown up through the purple leaves?
30 Sep, 2022
? Heliopsis 'Red Shades'
30 Sep, 2022
That looks a good match!
30 Sep, 2022
The photo was taken at Wollerton Old Hall gardens on my last visit there on Saturday. Thank you, think it’s a very close match to heliopsis red shades.
30 Sep, 2022
Ams, try messaging them to see if they can give you a positive I.D.
30 Sep, 2022
a friend has it and he thinks it is Red shades. It is going on my wants list. it is gorgeous.
30 Sep, 2022
I will email them, good idea.
30 Sep, 2022
It's heliopsis 'bleeding hearts'.
5 Oct, 2022
It's good to have a name for this lovely plant.
5 Oct, 2022
Could be Dahlia Bishop of Oxford.
29 Sep, 2022