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New garden, I would like to grow veg in the back section and create a flower garden in the front with a small lawn.
I know its tiny.
What veg should I put in if I get the beds done this week?
Any suggestions for design would also be gratefully received.




The bottom end looks as though it will be overshadowed by trees and could be full of roots. Neither of these bodes well for veg growing. Veg needs full sun and good soil. Any chance of making raised beds or having a 'potager' type veg plot nearer to the house (also handy for popping out for a lettuce etc). I would be inclined to have the veg plot half way down and use the bottom for compost heaps/shed or sheltered seating.

30 Aug, 2011


The trees may not be a problem. What direction does your garden face ? Also you could have a very pretty veg garden in the front if that is situated better.

30 Aug, 2011


There isn't much veg you can put in at this time of year and you might do better to concentrate on improving the soil over the winter. Try to find some well rotted manure or failing that some good compost and dig it well in. Your soil looks rather poor and dry on the photo and improving both the structure and goodness will be important if you want to grow anything successfully. As Volunteer says, this might be easier to do in a couple of raised beds, but as the plot is quite small finding enough humus bearing material shouldn't be too much of a problem.

30 Aug, 2011


Hi Martin, I too live in West Yorks and have a long narrow cottage garden. I have posted three blogs showing the development of my garden.

It is split into 3 areas, consisting of 1 small veg plot, a small lawned area with flower border and a raised veg plot.

we had 3 tons of top soil delivered and have manured quite considerably to improve the soil.

Take a look at my blogs, it may or may not give you some ideas, but bear in mind my garden is still work in progress.

Good Luck

31 Aug, 2011


Thank you all very much.

I like the idea of raised beds, being lazy and all. Afew of the trees are comming down so it will be light /semi shade.
Hi Pimpernel, great name, the garden faces east so the bottom gets the evening sun.
Thinking of putting some fruit trees against that red brick wall. Do you think a Bramley or two might do ok there?

31 Aug, 2011


Morning Martin. If your garden is small some apple trees may well be too big and take the light again. However there are now smaller trees on the market suitable for the smaller garden.

They do crop very well.

I have seen them already trained into cordons or espalades which is great if you don't know how to do this as I don't.

Later in October I shall be putting one or two in.

Enjoy your garden.

1 Sep, 2011


I saw a real life Scarlet Pimpernel last year growing in the crack of a concrete pavement . The plant is so small and the scarlet so vivid I was blown away.

1 Sep, 2011


Martin there is only room for one tree at the bottom of your garden, even if you remove all the other trees (and their roots!)and grow it as an espalier. If it only gets the evening sun though an apple may not do very well. Have you thought about a morello cherry - they will grow even on a north wall, but as they are a cooking variety that might not appeal to you. You might consider one on dwarfing rootstock and grow it in a large tub somewhere where it will get sun for more of the day.

3 Sep, 2011

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