Can anyone tell me what is happening here?
By grandmage
28 comments
I was sent eight lovely rasberry canes from a dear Goy. friend this year and they are growing & fruiting really well, they are Autumn bliss variety and are still fruiting like mad and are delicious.
But……..can you see the leaves are changing colour on just two of these canes and I wondered why, I am a novice rasberry grower and would like yor expert advice, please!
Is this just ‘autumn’ coming on or do they need some feed of some sort?
Thanks in advance.
- 12 Oct, 2012
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Glad you had some good fruits ...
I like raspberries too :o)
Is the soil sufficiently acidic ?
i.e. ericaceous soil ... well-drained.
12 Oct, 2012
Thanks Hywel, I have some bonemeal so I will read the packet and see what that suggests and take your advice. I have just had a bowl full after my lunch they are so sweet and my faves too.
Thanks TT. didnt know rassos. needed acidic soil!! but maybe I should dig in a bag of eric.compost, do you agree?
12 Oct, 2012
Seems like they could benefit from eric. compost and a general feed ...
12 Oct, 2012
They will get one/both a.s.a.p TT. many thanks
12 Oct, 2012
Maybe an even bigger crop of raspberries next time ! :o)))
12 Oct, 2012
I think that this is a nutrient deficiency, when the veins stay green and the leaf looses colour in between it may indicate a lack of Iron and or Magnesium? I think this can happen in acid-loving plants when grown in alkaline soils or some composts. If it is then they need a dose of Sequestrene?
12 Oct, 2012
Thanks Drc. do Rasberries need acid soil then? I must look it up and I will get some seqest. for them and eric.compost etc.
Hopefully TT. , they are so yummy.
12 Oct, 2012
They do better in slightly acidic soil and they hate chalky soil as I found out when I lived in Kent. I forgot to say Epsom salts is needed to replace Magnesium (sequestrene to replace Iron. But wait and see if anyone agrees or say differently?
12 Oct, 2012
Ok Drc. I can give them some of both though do you think I should do it now or wait til spring?
12 Oct, 2012
Well normally you would feed them in March/April. I am reluctant to say do it! as I think they need it to help the roots but as they are going dormant I may be quite wrong?
I have just looked on the RHS site and they tell you what to do but not when? But you may find it useful? - Nutrient deficiencies/RHS
12 Oct, 2012
Many thanks Drc. for looking on RHS for me, will give them a little something before they die down perhaps and then lots more come spring. I am very grateful to everyone for their help.
13 Oct, 2012
Autumn ones need the canes cutting right to the ground after fruiting stops, so not sure feeding now would do any good? Perhaps top dress over winter with an acid mulch - well rotted lawn mowings are a bit acid.
13 Oct, 2012
Thats a good idea Stera, so do I cut them back when the fruit has stopped? then I will put a bag of ericacious soil over them. That sounds perfect. Thank you.
13 Oct, 2012
Here's to a great crop next year!
19 Oct, 2012
Thanks Stera, got some ericacious compost to top dress them with and will let them be til spring! x
20 Oct, 2012
Steragram I am no expert on fruit however I thought you only cut off the canes that have fruited the green ones are next years fruit crop.
29 Oct, 2012
Bjs. that is what I have done! I have cut of the ones that fruited this year and top dressed them with nice eric..soil and now will let them rest.
29 Oct, 2012
its all good Grandmage, your raspberries are fine & you have done exactly what they need by cutting this years fruiting canes back to ground level. Summer fruiting rasps are cut back in early spring, autumn fruiting rasps are cut back now after fruiting has finished. Easy to spot the difference between this years fruited canes & the new unfruited canes isnt it ?
I have early, mid & late rasps varieties ( I love raspberries LOL ) & Autumn Bliss is one of the best flavours & performers in my garden. It is the one I recommend to anyone wanting to grow them.
30 Oct, 2012
Many thanks Bampy, glad I have done the right thing, also you are right the fruits are delicious and for their first year quite prolific. Does it matter that my soil is not acidic though? I have dug in some eric...soil will that be enough? and then come spring do you feed yours?
30 Oct, 2012
basically any soil is ok for raspberries, they are tough & you'll find out how busy Autumn Bliss is by the end of next summer ;-))
As folk have already suggested, compost in any shape & form is always the best for fruit plants. Top dressing now & in spring never a waste of time.
I double dig trenches & fill with compost before planting bare rooted canes, but TBH all my varieties thrive including those that just got shoved in the ground due to time restraints.
Fish/blood/bone is my supplement of choice for everything I grow. Just a handful lightly sprinkled round the plants & raked/hoed in etc.
A sunny aspect is probably the most important factor for fruit.
More people are regaining their love of home-grown raspberries & there was an excellent program couple of weeks ago on tv extolling their virtues. I dont need any pursuading as it is by far such an easy & rewarding fruit. Fresh picked off the cane as you pass by, nothing finer !!
It's the friends & family I have to watch out for, they make a bee-line for em LOL !! ;-))
30 Oct, 2012
Brill Bampy and thanks for all this explanation on how to look after them, I will lovingly top dress and feed them because i simply adore them :) have had to take a pot down the garden with me every time I went so I could collect them up, so yummy. Cheers now. x
31 Oct, 2012
I've enjoyed reading all of that. I grew raspberries recently and this year they were covered with blossoms and I was so excited....but the rain...oh my...nothing but mould and horrid little deformed fruits. I was gutted. I've removed them all now. Where I live there are so many grown commercially that I feel it isn't worth the trouble with all the rain we are getting now. Sad, as rasps are my favourite fruits also......sigh. When I read about Bampy's 'Autumn Bliss' I was tempted...but I don't think I can stand all that over again! lol
31 Oct, 2012
Shame Karen that you cannot grow them, I am a novice with them so wasnt sure at all what I was doing, Lol. Now I know and I will give them some tlc. and see what happens next year, I only have 8 plants but they have fruited really well for their 1st year.
31 Oct, 2012
I think they would have been fantastic in a better summer GG...I'm sure yours will be wonderful :) Our summer was so cold and dark. We really only had one good spell...a week in August when some friends came to stay...and that was far too late for the poor rasps.
31 Oct, 2012
Yes I agree, this has been an exceptionally bad year hasnt it?
31 Oct, 2012
Lets hope things get better next year! :)
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If they grew and fruited well, it doesn't seem to be a dificiency in the soil. If it was, I should think it would have shown up during the growing season, and would probably have affected all the canes. They do loose their leaves in autumn, so it could be that.
It wouldn't do any harm to give them a feed of bonemeal or something ... I think it's best done in late winter/early spring ... Well that's when I do it anyway :o)
Raspberries are my favs :o)
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