Nobody else on the allotments no snoop

Hi, if you, or you know someone, who owns a shotgun, watch for the fox, and or pups, and shoot them, they definitely wont come back, and it isn't illegal as they're vermin, Derek.

Thanks for the tip Derek

you can't touch the badger Snoop, aside from when the government is killing them, they are a protected species!

The fox will actually remove small vermin, wait until the young leave the den then destroy it and watch next year for signs of building then destroy before they have a chance to take up residence

sprinkle dried chilli flakes around the allotment to protect areas that need it.....

Thanks Pamg

Hello Derekm. I read you advice to Davros regarding the Fox and cubbs, I was shocked. The only vermin on this planet are humans, we are the only species
that have to build prisons to take care of our wrong do'ers. God gave us the animals to enjoy and to enhance our world, long may they continue to do so.

Kind Regards
Marian Of Hickling

Hi Marian of Hickling, you have obviously never been bothered by foxes, there are a number of people who think they're cuddly, friendly animals, I can assure you, they're not, they are vermin who spread disease, and kill for the sake of killing,they very rarely eat everything they kill, and are quite rightly classed as vermin, regards Derek.

If you are in an urban environment you would be best to contact your local council for advice. It is illegal to shoot urban foxes - they are considered to be wildlife NOT vermin (don't ask me how the 'country folk' get away with it - and yes, I have seen what they are capable of doing in a chicken house but then there are plenty of locks that will keep them out of chicken houses)

If rats are classed as vermin,then why aren't foxes? Is it because they are more attractive looking with their big bushy red tails and they look vaguely like dogs?
just a thought.

it's a numbers game. And the fact that rats can destroy a whole harvest with very little effort. Historically, we have been much more dependent on grain crops than on chickens and it is much harder to keep rats out of a grain store than it is to keep foxes away from chickens. As someone else has said, there is a case in favour of foxes in that they do eat vermin.

It all depends on your point of view... in a rural setting I would ignore a fox just as I ignore the mice. In an urban setting they need removing sooner rather than later as the can spread disease. Humans have this strange love/hate relationship with animals, yet all of them do have a role to play in a balanced environment - which we don't have thanks to the way humans behave!

Well said Mg, my philosophy ls live and let live too:but I have a real problem with their tramping over my freshly sown beds!

It shouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility to fence off the beds.

An old farmer once said its th balance o nature.......and not to disregard it.....
i'm with you Mg, its different in the countyside.......i rarely get bothered by slugs and snails.....and rarely greenfly so i only control them in the greenhouse