from experience I have pulled it out and dug it out by hand. then I keep an eye out for some small seedlings and remove them as soon as I see them. its a big job but quietly satisfying.

The waxy layer on the ivy leaf means that weedkillers don't tend to penetrate the leaves.

All you can do is pull it out by hand, I'm afraid.

Well you can get rid of it IF the border doesn't contain a number of large and medium shrubs and trees, I've done it, but I'll admit you need a good pair of knees, good eyesight, a strong back, plenty of time, a determined attitude, a bottle of SBK and plenty of old flowerpots. I should also add that, if someone asked me to do it now, I couldn't, my knees are screaming at the very thought of it, got too old...

If this sounds attractive in any way, Alison, answer below and I'll tell you exactly how to do it - its a bit of a lengthy explanation;-)))

Yes, depends on how much there is. I'd go for digging it out. If you putt the long trails out you'll be able to see where the roots are.

You've now got me wondering what you do with the old flower pots Bamboo, do they contribute to your bad knees?

Heh heh, no Cammomile - actually there's nowt wrong with my knees, the pain I'm getting in them is coming from my lower back, which is also why I find it difficult to kneel, the lower back simply won't cooperate, but I feel it in the knees...

The old flower pots are for placing over exposed and treated roots, tiny and large, within the soil, so you can put the soil back over without its coming into contact with the SBK, and find that particular root easily later if it needs treating again... there's method in my madness, lol!

Now I understand, clever.