First is Leycesteria formosa or Himalayan honeysuckle. Don't know about the other but someone will know.

Thorneyside, thank you very much for your reply. Much appreciated

Look a bit like Filpendula leaves.

First one Leycesteria formosa, Pheasant Berry. Second one looks like a Spirea of some variety but only a guess.

Thank you Owdboggy & Jimmytheone for your replies. The second one grows randomly in one part of the garden. As I have no idea what it is I pull it out but hard to get all of the root/runners out. I decided to plant a couple to see what it grows into . Thank you again

As you are saying that it grows randomly in the garden, could this be Ground Elder?

I think Jimmy the one is right. Looks very much like ground elder.

Thorneyside Thank you for your reply. Ill see how the two I have potted grow