I wouldn't be tempted by T&M, to be honest. The plants are likely to be tiny - then what will you do? Sorry - too many bad experiences with this firm. :-(

Same here, Spritzhenry, same here!

Agree with Spritz - I'd avoid T&M and J Parker, whatever they're selling...

They have been advertising these for at least 6 months,
I had some vouchers from them that they sent me after refunding my money, for a perennial collection I had ordered the majority of which were dead when they arrived,so I used them to buy this collection, when they arrived I was shocked to find them in a tray which I could almost fit in the palm of my hand, holding 42 {6 dead}, the cells themselves were no bigger than a thimble, good job I hadn,t actually paid for them, i wont be buying anything else off them

I had the same experience as you guys with T&M, They are good at refunding or resending orders, but you still get the same tiny plug plants which are dead on the outside of the trays, and far too fiddly to pot up even tho there advertised as larger plugs and show you a pic of them in someone's hand being the size of there palm sideways!! think they use a childs hand as the model lol...

What a pity this is - T&M used to be the top end of the market.

They sent me tiny plug plants of Coreopsis in late July last year - far too late to grow on, and of course they didn't even flower! I'd had to phone them several times too. What a waste of money. :-(( That was their last chance, too, after too many bad experiences. Never again.

I get quite a lot of plants/plugs from Jersey plants, and they've always been very good, and well packed. Anybody else found them good value for money? Annie

I get quite a lot of plants/plugs from Jersey plants, and they've always been very good, and well packed. Anybody else found them good value for money? Annie

I bought begonias tubers from them (T&M) back in the spring, they were titchy and out of 15, only 6 ever showed any sign of life. My husband brought me back 10 much bigger ones bought from a local garden centre in Oxfordshire, each at less than half the price I paid per T&M one, and every one grew and flowered splendidly. Luckily I haven't been tempted to buy plugs - they wouldn't survive the journey out here, and from what you've all been saying, they don't survive the journey anywhere!

I can recommend Jacksons - out of all the plants I've had delivered so far this year, their's were far and away the best packed, and the plants they provided were of good size and quality. They only have a relatively limited range of stuff though.

I use Dobies now - the mail order firm in Devon. No problems ever with them.

thanks for the replies and seems like t&m are very poor but they seem to be the only ones selling this new variety cant find them anywhere else maybe i will try again next spring thanks again

It seems that you can also buy seeds. Maybe that would be a better option?

You wont find them anywhere else, because these have been bred by t&m, but i,m sure you will be able to find something very similar under another name bred by another company, good luck in your search.

thanks derekm i will have a look in the new year for something similar as its seems t&m cannot be trusted to send adaquate plants for purpose