Scotland

oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh that looks so cold......

omg~reminds me so much of Northumberland!very Christmassy Eileen!

Where in Scotland is that Eileen ?

it is in Renfrewshire Hywel, not far from Glasgow

Thanks Eileen. I was only asking because Beryl's grandparents were Scottish. I thought maybe it was near where they were from , but it's not. They were from Ayr and Aberdeen.

~my great grandmother on my dad's side was from Ayrshire~went into service at age 13 and then got married and had nine children living in Lowestoft where my dad was born.

Maybe you're related to Beryl Arlene. lol
Well you both like fuchsias :o)

ive spent time in both Ayr and Aberdeen Hywel.

lol wouldnt that be funny if they were related

Do you mean Lowerstoft Suffolk Arlene ..

That is a christmasy photo Eileen , and we thought it had all gone .!

It's a small world they say Eileen :o)

~That's right Amy~he moved north after the war because he met my mum whilst posted up there~we used to go there a lot on holiday~still have relatives.

My great grandma was Mary Shields 1848 to 1926 her father was John but can't find any more info~think the family was from Ireland Eileen~the only country I don't have relatives from is Wales Hywel !
My mums father was Kelly I think but am waiting for the 2011 census to do a better trace.Can go back to 1641 on my dad's surname which was Roberton~no males to carry on the surname~all the girls had boys and all the boys had girls~isn't that weird!

Well you live here instead Arlene. lol
The name Shields isn't in Beryl's family. Oh well - never mind . We can still share fuchsias :o)

~that's true Hywel and I have a welsh daughter!

:o)

My daughter lives about 10 miles from Lowestoft Arlene .

I'm waiting for the census too Arlene. - lots to find out.
I wonder what Eileen thinks of us using her photo for this conversation ? lol

It's a small world Amy! I have fond memories of the area where my gran lived where there were these lovely water lilies~big spreads~ absolutely gorgeous!I still have the picture clearly in my mind.

~I know Eileen is a very tolerant lady and won't mind!

That's a relief. lol
Thanks Eileen :o)

i think its great Hywel, im enjoying reading all the comments.

Arlene , you might be interested to know a lot of the surenames over here used to have O before them , like my name ,,,, o halloran.
some took the O out dues to superstition, they reckoned the O brought bad luck

Interesting about the superstition Eileen....what a fabulous photograph !

A lot or Welsh surnames developed from the word ap or ab in front of the father's name - meaning ' son of ' . So you get names like Powell, - ap Howell; or Bevan, - ap Evan etc. But it was more usual to adopt the English method - so you have Howells or Evans instead of Powell or Bevan. I wonder why they thought the O was superstitious ?

interesting about the Welsh names Hywel. im not sure where the superstition came from,, just know some peole thought the 0 was bad luck

Shame that is. :o(

~the English forms Jackson,Robertson,Anderson etc are the same Hywel and of course you have the occupations like Smith,Baker,Miller,Cook ,Forester
etc~fascinating!

Yes I have some books on surnames. It's very interesting. In my ancestry thet's a Mary William. Her father was William David. His father was David something probably. It was before they had settled surmanes.
And there are nicknames thet stuck - Long , Snow etc.