foliage on cascading roses
By Mookins
Norfolk, United Kingdom
this is more of a general queri to my usual "aaaah panic" questions
I have some cascading roses and just wondered why the new leaves are slightly larger and deeper red than the first lot grown
they are much nicer
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- 14 Aug, 2009
Answers
Is this http://www.backyardgardener.com/plantname/pda_e0a7.html the rose you are writing about Mookins?
14 Aug, 2009
A lot of roses put out smaller blooms and slightly different or lighter colour foliage in the heat of summer than they do in the spring and the fall. As far as I have read, it is something to do with conserving moisture and energy in the hotter days.
Foliage colour can also change depending on the amount of food available to the rose. Usually the foliage will darken up a bit a few weeks after fertilizing.
Foliage size can also be affected by the amount of moisture the plant is getting.
Basically, I guess there are a lot of environmental factors that will affect both your rose leaves and your blooms.
I notice changes in a lot of mine throughout the growing season.
15 Aug, 2009
ok have been looking up where I bought these from but cant find it now but think it was J parkers I bought 6, 3 white and 3 red.
BUT when i go to look it up i get info on The Fairy rose which also rings a bell. and this apparently is a Poluanthus.But mine arent double, and when they open fully they are quite ugly to look at (in my opinion)
Ive looked at your link Moongrower and yes it lloks like this also known as the MOORcap.
very confusing.
It has lots of tiny rose buds almost like on my wild roses so possibly the same. It also says the cascading rose or rose cascade are climbers. Mine definatly have not climbed upwards but are spreading rapidly sideways.
Have hopefully put a pic on this question now of the change of leaves and some other pics on my pics.
sorry Bamboo I dont think its anything new except the name which is a bit mean I think.
Gilli I do give it a feed of Tomarite once a while so maybe thats why its changing also that and like Bamboo says if its a mix of something it could well be changing back
grrrr
to be honest they arent as nice as I expected, quite dissapointed, they open far too quickly and look much much nicer when just opening.
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sorry pics arent very good the wind is quite strong today
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have just checked my white ones and they are double Im sure as when in full bloom you cannot see the centre like on the red!!
getting very confused
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15 Aug, 2009
Now, I know you've got the Rose Expert Book, mookins - I personally wouldn't buy any rose that's not given a listing in there. What you're describing sounds like an old fashioned rambler, to me.
15 Aug, 2009
i think so too Bamboo as its reaching out everywhere.
Now I have the book I will def read up first, this was a before purchase though so can be forgiven
:o)
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15 Aug, 2009
You are forgiven, my child ;-))))
15 Aug, 2009
Single roses such as you describe, are more bee and butterfly friendly, which might take the edge off your disappointment!
15 Aug, 2009
they certainly are PennyF
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Cheers Bamboo hehehe
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16 Aug, 2009
I think if you have been given a mislabelled rose Mookins. After looking at your photos, this can't be a red cascade. The red cascade is definitely a double flower. Take a look at this web page........
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=15620&tab=36
17 Aug, 2009
Grrrrr.... I iwish I had kept the receipt its very annoying not being able to remember.
will give the sellers a ring see id they can tell ym
xheerx for the link Gilli much appreciated
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17 Aug, 2009
:o)
18 Aug, 2009
I don't know what a cascading rose is - what's it called and is it some new kind of hybrid? If so, I'll be interested to see what they're like next year too - I've got this theory that lots of the new roses on the market don't stay true to their description as sold, that they change over time and lose some of the characteristics, like colour, form, etc. I'd also like to know where you got it from, if you don't mind. No use to you ,this answer, though;-)
14 Aug, 2009