garden fire and cooker

Your innovation is endless, what a good idea, nice to see you around again :-)

A Very ingenuitive idea. And, ideal to stand things on for cooking/heating.

How inventive......and it looks good too.

and it lights easy and it will last a good while . I put an old warped disc off of a car break on top to make a hot plate too and there cheap to get hold of .

What a good idea Leigh we've been looking out for something to make a smoker for food but would need a door on it to shut it ... how are you ? x

car wheel are soo usefull Leigh. bet it it fires up a treat...

If I was there I'd place a grill over it and get the steaks going!

Your pal wants to know why you haven't got any food cooking, he won't mind sausages and might even allow you to join him...

Yea bangers and mash! I never did mind anyone watching me eat but I always share with the pups:)

lol it has many uses and does light up very easily . ive been around a few times amy but you havnt been there x .

It looks pretty high tech Leigh - I wouldn't have guessed if you hadn't said. You're a very talented bloke...

I'm sorry we missed you Leigh , we have been out and about a bit this summer x

Clever invention Leigh hope you patent it. I sent a poem to a local paper they claimed the copyright. I was told thats what business do now so they can make money from us.

its true thrupenny it cost £3500 for a patent too . ill see you soon amy one day or another x .

the legs made from the door and welded into position?

Looks really posh!

as for patent it may well be worth investing because once you have it you can sell it on and just think about the recycling alone and the saving on landfill, companies make a fortune riding on the back of other peoples ideas. When my uncle died many years ago I laminated a large photo took it to the florist who placed it on an oblong oasis and made a frame of flowers around the picture, it was leant against his coffin at the bottom so those following could see his smiling face. A few weeks later that same florist phoned to ask if they minded if I they did another for a customer, I didnt think, said ok and guess what, I should have invested!

Don't feel to bad your profitable venture would have been short lived. Taking selfies with the deceased is becoming a popular thing to do now.

to be honest I sore this idea and copied it myself

3d, the Patent Office is crammed with patents that lost money - not worth it for something that's not going to be a big commercial success.

your right stera x

It's all a matter of marketing. Example, you just bought for next to nothing a warehouse full of junk jewelry or clothing. If you contract with a currently popular rock band to wear this stuff at a few of their concerts or a music video then contract with some stores to sell it or market it on tv, you will find that warehouse will be empty in two weeks. Those who failed to make their ideas sell are those who failed to market it properly. Prime examples of great marketing.... remember Pet Rocks or those little Trolls with the colored fiber hair? No money for a patent or to do the rest? Well that's what investment groups are for.

You only notice the successful ones - thousands of others are languishing unused,many of them of little potential interest to investment groups...I think this solution sounds a lot easier than it is...

I think there is more pleasure in your own creations.
The garden is the ideal place to do these, and enjoy them.

Well Stera you are right but you won't know if you don't try and there are just as many people languishing unfulfilled of their potential just by talking themselves out of making any moves or taking any chances in their lives. Personally I was never one to have my life move in a crab like fashion......sideways.

I think the frustrating thing about patents is if someone invents a useful new method or gadget at work and its patented and highly successful the inventor gets nothing. (I know as it happened to my Dad...)

Seems he didnt do his homework properly.

I think the patent is only the beginning. You then need the capital to get your invention into production, which usually means finding reliable partners. I guess it depends whether you want to run with it or not. It takes a lot of work and motivation, I should imagine.

Do you mean my Dad Diane? It wasn't a case of doing his homework, he developed the design at the request of his employer in works time. It was since used all over the steel industry, so at least he had that satisfaction!

I believe that happens quite often, Stera - my f-i-l, who worked on the Tyne, told me of several instances he knew of.

its £3500 for a patent good idea or bad they happily take your money because I thought of a strimower as my bad back sufferd using a strimmer and there wasn't ebough grass for a mower . it would have the motor at the bottom and a clear shield at the front that's level with the strimming cord with auto feed. two rough terrain front wheels that are static and one back wheel like a shopping trolly if you will . the handle flexible from the motor . make it for about £40 and you could strim and or mow without too much danger of cutting your favourite plant down even sitting . my other idea would be for people with know gardens . this would be a metal thin panel that's flexible with a small lip at the top that maybe is coloured to blend in . can go on a wall or around a tree or lamp post etc . then have a telescopic handled hook and feeders or bird boxes etc with magnets on the back . it would make a lot of places accessible or useable that arnt at the moment . I just cant afford £7000 pounds and I believe I just gave 2 good ideas away but hay ho it will help maybe if either of these ever see light of day so why keep them all to myself . they of course could be bad ideas too .

You could suggest the bird feeder one to the RSPB though - (with a drawing) It might benefit people even if you didn't make any money out of it.

There arises a problem developing an idea in the works time. Presumably with the works tools and materials. I dont know enough about the law on that subject.
Best to do the research at the library before starting.

What a clever man you are, Nosey - even if you did see the idea elsewhere!

Patents and business plans are for businessmen. Some work. And some don't. If that's your bag, go for it! If not - life's too short... ?

yes your right stera who needs to make money when I can help wildlife . thank you balcony I did teach myself to weld firstly so maybe your right lol . not that you can see the welds from there .

Diane, I think you are imagining Dad did a private development of his own in works time? He would never ever have done that. It was a task he was asked to undertake for the firm. He didn't need to do any research, he used his own knowledge and expertise, which was considerable. It was just frustrating that having had the idea and done the work (which solved a huge problem in the steel industry)he got no reward at all, though frustratingly but understandably it is standard practice that credit and profit all go to the company.

Sorry, rant over.