Back of the pink and slate.

This is one of the stronger ones,Paul. I have been generally disappointed with them, like you. Lots of leaf-spot and rotting necks (despite cutting back the leaves in November). I looked at some for sale in GC. and they were not much better so I left them where they were. I have found the very expensive ones from well-known company have been awful since I purchased them and have dug out 2 of them. So much for the hype!