Confused?
By dawnsaunt
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Some years ago I visited a local GC and they had a really beautiful conifer growing in the lawn along the driveway, about 15 feet talI I asked the owners wife what it was and she said, oh it’s grannies ringlets. After googling I found it to be Cryptomeria japonica Spiralis. Ive found it at GC’s a few times over the years but the label always describes it as a dwarf conifer yet the RHS describe it as
slow-growing, semi-dwarf, developing into a spreading dome and ultimately a tall cone up to 6m tall in 20-50 years.
I found one at Wyevale, their website describe it as a distinctive large bush or small tree. Forms a neat, dense, cone-shaped plant 6m.high by 3m.wide in time. Suitable for growing as an architectural feature plant in a lawn or in a conifer bed.
So it arrived yesterday and the label reads – suitable for rockery, height in ten years 1-2 feet! I’m totally confused how/where to plant it now. Maybe it’s just a very slow grower.
If you’ve grown one or seen one it would be really helpful. Thanks
- 28 Oct, 2017
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Hi Sheila, it is lovely when mature.
28 Oct, 2017
it is a slow growing conifer and in 10 yrs will have put on 1-2 ft of growth. then in the next 10 years a further 1-2 ft. so in 20 yrs 2-4 ft. the idea of a dwarf conifer is misleading. there are slow growing ones. the gc often describe the height you'd expect it to grow in 10 yrs.
so in 20 yrs it may be too big for the rockery.
plant it where you first thought and enjoy it as it matures.
final height is about 18-20 ft [6m]
28 Oct, 2017
Oh Seaburn, that's excellent info, thank you so much!
I'm beginning to realise I won't live long enough (probably) to enjoy the beauty I bought it for :-). Really appreciate your advice.
28 Oct, 2017
My experience is the same Dawnsaunt. I have my forest to look after and I'm constantly thinking.. "oh pretty little hemlock...wonder if I'll see this mature?" Some of the trees (usually oaks) that are standing on my hill have been there for at least a century... and I have the nerve to call it "my hill"...lol. I love that Cryptomeria. It's growth is so interestingly frustrating... we like to see progress in order to gauge our success, but the tree has another agenda!
28 Oct, 2017
Hi Lori, time flies though but it's safe to say I doubt I will see this one reach maturity.
29 Oct, 2017
..but you can still enjoy it Dawn. If it were me, I think I'd have it in a large pot until it puts on a bit of growth because it would be lost in the middle of a lawn. Nice plant though. :) A couple of weeks ago I contacted a labelling company because the info. on the plant label was completely wrong and it does bug me...it wasn't an inexpensive shrub either. The label said it was evergreen, but it was clearly deciduous, and the height was about half of the actual height of the shrub. Very misleading indeed. ANyway, they did get back to me to thank me and they asked me to send them a photo so they could trace the label back to the customer. It turned out the label was several years old....which made me wonder how long that Viburnum had been in that pot!
29 Oct, 2017
I have a miniature garden and am always on the look out for dwarf items. The conifers I have planted there are removed when they get to a certain height, re-potted, and placed elsewhere. I can still enjoy them for some time, so I reckon you are OK for a while with Grannie's Ringlets. (Lovely name!)
OH often finds stuff wrongly marked and tells them! He noticed the error on "Pointless" the other day, as did many other gardeners.
30 Oct, 2017
Very good to know so many people are caring about plant
and tree names. The suppliers should always be told.
30 Oct, 2017
Hi, if you want to keep it small, fortunately Cryptomeria is 1 of the few coniferous genera that can be successfully coppiced, Derek.
30 Oct, 2017
That's interesting Derek. Thank you.
Diane, I agree.
Eirlys, so Pointless can get it wrong! Haha I wanted the conifer to be big not small, I will have to be patient!
Karen, thanks, I wondered about potting it for now, I will, I'll get some John innes no3. Good for you on the labelling issue, it is annoying. My Magnolia stellata from burncoose is pink lol!!
31 Oct, 2017
I've got one of these. GOY Sandra sent it to me many years ago. It's in a pot and hasn't grown very big. It's a beautiful plant.
2 Nov, 2017
Hi Hywel. Thank you, I will put in a pot too. They are fascinating plants.
2 Nov, 2017
Thank you, Derek. I plant little trees and then replace them when they get too big. My miniature garden now has artificial grass ( the bits left over from the pond area). Used to have a lovely little rose which bloomed for years and then one day vanished. It was called Si and was said to grow to a maximum of 7 inches in height. Mine never grew above four inches!
Do wish I could find a Nursery that specialisesd in miniature plants. The one we used to visit in Devon closed down.
8 Nov, 2017
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How confusing Dawn . . . looks nice though.
28 Oct, 2017